i don't know, several years ago, the atf officers, the government officers, you know, they're coming across this field, you know, with their semi-automatic weapons and inside there, they're thinking, i assume, we've got some religious fanatics in here. these people are the buckos from waco. you know, all the stuff you got on the media. well, wait a second, folks, because when those bullets started flying out of that compound and in some cases took the life of the government agents, that shows the power. now, one could sit and argue till the cows come home about whether or not the apocalyptic armageddon vision portrayed by david koresh was true or not true but the effect, the power that it has was extraordinary and, you know, that's a rather extreme example to start of the course with, but we'll see that over and over again and one needs to have respect for the power of religious belief.